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		<title>Comment on U. of Florida CS department: let it be destroyed by rising sea levels 100 years from now, not reckless administrators today by Sexy Muscle Worship</title>
		<link>http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=981#comment-77460</link>
		<dc:creator>Sexy Muscle Worship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 11:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is one of the so much important information for me.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is one of the so much important information for me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on D-Wave: Truth finally starts to emerge by Henning Dekant</title>
		<link>http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1400#comment-77366</link>
		<dc:creator>Henning Dekant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 02:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James #322, unless Greg develops a habit of sloshing Tesla BOVs I really don&#039;t think he should be called an &quot;extremist wacko”.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James #322, unless Greg develops a habit of sloshing Tesla BOVs I really don&#8217;t think he should be called an &#8220;extremist wacko”.</p>
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		<title>Comment on D-Wave: Truth finally starts to emerge by Henning Dekant</title>
		<link>http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1400#comment-77362</link>
		<dc:creator>Henning Dekant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott #317, it really is a shame that &lt;a href=&quot;http://wavewatching.net/2012/03/24/a-brief-history-of-quantum-computing/&quot; / rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Feynman never gets any respect.&lt;/a&gt; ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott #317, it really is a shame that <a href="http://wavewatching.net/2012/03/24/a-brief-history-of-quantum-computing/" / rel="nofollow">Feynman never gets any respect.</a> <img src='http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on D-Wave: Truth finally starts to emerge by James Gallagher</title>
		<link>http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1400#comment-77335</link>
		<dc:creator>James Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 23:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Sidles #331

Feynman&#039;s Path Integral fomulation of Quantum Mechanics is mathematically identical to the Schrödinger (and Heisenberg) pictures of Quantum Mechanics. And QED is pretty clearly understood with path integrals - it&#039;s how Feynman worked out how to do the calculations. 

So I assume you&#039;re just talking about some engineering restriction (at low energy) rather than a fundamental problem - otherwise I don&#039;t understand your argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Sidles #331</p>
<p>Feynman&#8217;s Path Integral fomulation of Quantum Mechanics is mathematically identical to the Schrödinger (and Heisenberg) pictures of Quantum Mechanics. And QED is pretty clearly understood with path integrals &#8211; it&#8217;s how Feynman worked out how to do the calculations. </p>
<p>So I assume you&#8217;re just talking about some engineering restriction (at low energy) rather than a fundamental problem &#8211; otherwise I don&#8217;t understand your argument.</p>
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		<title>Comment on D-Wave: Truth finally starts to emerge by John Sidles</title>
		<link>http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1400#comment-77326</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sidles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 22:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;b&gt;James Gallagher&lt;/b&gt; observes (correctly):  &quot;QED [Feynman-style] doesn’t disobey the fundamental postulates of QM [Nielsen/Chuang-style]&quot;
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Yes, but of course the converse implication does &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; follow logically (or even plausibly!).

Nature strictly &lt;i&gt;requires&lt;/i&gt; that (low energy) QM/QIT computational devices be constructed out of the electron, nucleon, and photon fields of QED field theory.  This restrictions ensures that the QED dynamics of electrons, nucleons, and photons can be computationally simulated (to any required precision) using the (scalably error-corrected) logic gates of QM/QIT.  But this does &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; imply&#160;&#8212; by &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; simple logical &lt;i&gt;or&lt;/i&gt; physical argument&#160;&#8212; that (scalably error-corrected) QM/QIT logic gates can be experimentally simulated using the QED dynamics of electron, nucleon, and photon fields.

&lt;b&gt;Common-sense conclusion&lt;/b&gt;&#160; (QED&#160;⊂&#160;QM/QIT) ≢ (QM/QIT&#160;⊂&#160;QED)&#160; :)]]></description>
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<b>James Gallagher</b> observes (correctly):  &#8220;QED [Feynman-style] doesn’t disobey the fundamental postulates of QM [Nielsen/Chuang-style]&#8221;<br />
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Yes, but of course the converse implication does <i>not</i> follow logically (or even plausibly!).</p>
<p>Nature strictly <i>requires</i> that (low energy) QM/QIT computational devices be constructed out of the electron, nucleon, and photon fields of QED field theory.  This restrictions ensures that the QED dynamics of electrons, nucleons, and photons can be computationally simulated (to any required precision) using the (scalably error-corrected) logic gates of QM/QIT.  But this does <i>not</i> imply&nbsp;&mdash; by <i>any</i> simple logical <i>or</i> physical argument&nbsp;&mdash; that (scalably error-corrected) QM/QIT logic gates can be experimentally simulated using the QED dynamics of electron, nucleon, and photon fields.</p>
<p><b>Common-sense conclusion</b>&nbsp; (QED&nbsp;⊂&nbsp;QM/QIT) ≢ (QM/QIT&nbsp;⊂&nbsp;QED)&nbsp; <img src='http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on D-Wave: Truth finally starts to emerge by Greg Kuperberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Kuperberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 21:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whereas D-Wave is the opposite.  They notoriously scoff at theory, but their engineering is more conventional than they care to admit.  (At least their engineering so far; we always have to heed the parable of the stone soup in this discussion.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whereas D-Wave is the opposite.  They notoriously scoff at theory, but their engineering is more conventional than they care to admit.  (At least their engineering so far; we always have to heed the parable of the stone soup in this discussion.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on D-Wave: Truth finally starts to emerge by Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1400#comment-77317</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 21:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bram #325:

&lt;ul&gt;Lots of really big engineering advancements were the result of scoffing at the conventional wisdom and plowing through difficult challenges until eventually succeeding, but in all cases the conventional wisdom being scoffed at was engineering practice, and there was a clear underlying theory as to why the new approach was a good one.&lt;/ul&gt;

Couldn&#039;t have said it better!  Of course, if &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; said it, I&#039;d be &quot;scoffed at&quot; myself a self-serving, out-of-touch, ivory-tower fantasist, but I hope the creator of BitTorrent will have slightly more credibility on this question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bram #325:</p>
<ul>Lots of really big engineering advancements were the result of scoffing at the conventional wisdom and plowing through difficult challenges until eventually succeeding, but in all cases the conventional wisdom being scoffed at was engineering practice, and there was a clear underlying theory as to why the new approach was a good one.</ul>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t have said it better!  Of course, if <i>I</i> said it, I&#8217;d be &#8220;scoffed at&#8221; myself a self-serving, out-of-touch, ivory-tower fantasist, but I hope the creator of BitTorrent will have slightly more credibility on this question.</p>
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		<title>Comment on D-Wave: Truth finally starts to emerge by James Gallagher</title>
		<link>http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1400#comment-77307</link>
		<dc:creator>James Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 21:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Sidles #316

It&#039;s important to understand that QED could, theoretically, be formulated in a Schrodinger picture as evolution of a (finite) state vector via some Hamiltonian. The fact that we don&#039;t know how to construct the Hamiltonian to get the correct time evolution doesn&#039;t mean it don&#039;t exist.

QED doesn&#039;t disobey the fundamental postulates of QM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Sidles #316</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to understand that QED could, theoretically, be formulated in a Schrodinger picture as evolution of a (finite) state vector via some Hamiltonian. The fact that we don&#8217;t know how to construct the Hamiltonian to get the correct time evolution doesn&#8217;t mean it don&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>QED doesn&#8217;t disobey the fundamental postulates of QM</p>
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		<title>Comment on D-Wave: Truth finally starts to emerge by Rahul</title>
		<link>http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1400#comment-77273</link>
		<dc:creator>Rahul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bram Cohen #325:
 
What is the range of problems that can be solved via Boson Sampling?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bram Cohen #325:</p>
<p>What is the range of problems that can be solved via Boson Sampling?</p>
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		<title>Comment on D-Wave: Truth finally starts to emerge by John Sidles</title>
		<link>http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1400#comment-77272</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sidles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;b&gt;Bram Cohen&lt;/b&gt; offers:  &quot;A general comment on D-Wave’s scoffing at theory&#160;&#8230;&quot;
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Bram, can you provide some examples of &quot;D-Wave’s scoffing at theory&quot; (articles, preprints, or talks)?

Isn&#039;t academic &quot;scoffing&quot; at D-Wave&#039;s technological demonstrations far more prevalent than the reverse?  Whence this marked asymmetry?

The practice of &quot;scoffing&quot; generically contributes little to academic discourse (as it seems to me)&#160;&#8230; and so one hopes that D-Wave largely or wholly refrains from this practice.]]></description>
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<b>Bram Cohen</b> offers:  &#8220;A general comment on D-Wave’s scoffing at theory&nbsp;&hellip;&#8221;<br />
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Bram, can you provide some examples of &#8220;D-Wave’s scoffing at theory&#8221; (articles, preprints, or talks)?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t academic &#8220;scoffing&#8221; at D-Wave&#8217;s technological demonstrations far more prevalent than the reverse?  Whence this marked asymmetry?</p>
<p>The practice of &#8220;scoffing&#8221; generically contributes little to academic discourse (as it seems to me)&nbsp;&hellip; and so one hopes that D-Wave largely or wholly refrains from this practice.</p>
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